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divemedic035 - 8/25/2011 7:14 AM
Category: Survey
Replies: 135

The question I am posing to my fellow dive buddies is how you would handle this situation. While on a dive boat charter during the first dive of a 3 tank trip several “STUDENTS” experience extreme discomfort in the water one of whom panics and has to be escorted top side by other divers, and 2 others that are “taken under the wing” of more experienced divers of which none of us are in the class, or associated with the shop or “Open water Instructor”(who is an arrogant @$$) and is running the class. What do you think should happen next?
Eric_R - 8/08/2014 8:41 PM
[Choose #1] One really is the next logical choice but several of the others would happen next.
divingmauritius - 11/20/2012 9:02 AM
[Choose #1] First asses, sign and symptoms of the student if present call emergency, treat accordingly until relieve by medics then you chat with the instructor to understand how and why it happened as it can be recklessness of the student too.
bubbleseeker - 4/10/2012 6:27 PM
[Choose #1] if the second choice didnt work then opt for the last choice.
kleinscuba - 1/22/2012 6:15 PM
[Choose #1] It is an accident waiting to happen. Turn the boat around unless you want to do real rescues. Then file a quality complaint to the instructors teaching agency.
Divehog - 1/17/2012 10:52 PM
[Choose #3] If the students carn’t handle the dive they should be back in the pool with a different instructor.
oceanquest - 1/17/2012 7:35 AM
[Choose #3] Students cannot just dive with certified divers or just another instructor. Students must dive with their instructor on record for the open water check out. The captain needs to be informed of the situation because he is liable for the passengers.
DolphinDancer - 1/15/2012 4:51 PM
[Choose #1] The Capt. should have been notified of everything that went on.Everyone should have come up and the dives ended. As a Capt. and a scuba Instructor for 25 years I know the Capt. would have thank you. Lost dives is a trade off 4 safe lives
ScubaDivaLaura - 1/15/2012 11:35 AM
[Choose #3] Everyone on board the boat observing the situation should write a letter to all the diving agencies, PADI-NAUI-SSI-SDI ect for allowing incompetent people become instructors with a minimum of 100 dives under their belt.
Subaqua - 1/14/2012 2:43 PM
[Choose #1] As a dive professional, this is the only proactive option. The Boat Captian and crew are the ultimate responsibility.
CaptJack - 1/14/2012 12:35 PM
[Choose #1] Option #6 - Speak to the capt. who is ultimately respnsible. if there is a safety issue I’d bet the capt. was already on the path of discusison. there’s also not enough info in this scenario imho.
Red - 1/14/2012 12:20 PM
[Choose #4] I have been there. And I will handle it. And wish most divers to stay out of it. I would call the whole dive and work it out with the students.
maxdvr - 12/24/2011 3:54 PM
[Choose #1] #1 if im on the charter i would call the dive i guess... any diver has that right. its better than someone having an accident!
tshark - 9/05/2011 4:34 PM
[Choose #1] at least ask for a refund or a credit towards another trip I would also report the instructor to the association that they are teaching under
Lafrules - 9/04/2011 9:09 AM
[Choose #5] just kidding. I would probably stay out of it as I am not a divemaster or instructor then I would talk to the shop owner after and probably write something to Padi
Indiana - 9/02/2011 10:23 AM
[Choose #4] only help if someones may get hurt
ScubaDreaminn - 8/31/2011 5:16 PM
[Choose #1] As just a diver (not a DM, AI or Instructor who is fully insured this is the best policy.
Kryllosc - 8/31/2011 1:20 PM
[Choose #2] I would have to say that I would off to "help" and I mean that is the looses terms. but I am also a Dive Medic and I saw something unsafe I sadly have a duty to act and set in. and possable throw him overboard.
JimmyW - 8/29/2011 3:03 PM
[Choose #1] You do not have the appropriate answer listed above. Instructors must stay with the students, at no time is a student allowed to be in any situation that the instructor is not able to act for the student. You do not have enough room for my answer.
DiveRanger - 8/29/2011 2:05 PM
[Choose #3] a paniced student could equal a dead student
Easytoremember - 8/29/2011 10:55 AM
[Choose #4] Your question is oddly worded and very difficult to follow. I’m not quite sure even what you’re upset about, other than an annoying instructor.
tonymag - 8/29/2011 10:52 AM
[Choose #1] dont necessarilly cut trip short, but have the captain/ divemaster keep that group out of the water. You are a paying customer and should not be held responsible for this yahoo’s class, nor have your trip cut short.
Johar - 8/29/2011 9:05 AM
[Choose #4] i would only give my advice if i was friends with one of them , but if i dont know anyone , i’d rather keep my own business , i might offer help and cut off my dive to stay behind with the one who panic
Smithsgold - 8/28/2011 10:20 PM
[Choose #5] Let Him Swim !!!!
John_giu - 8/28/2011 8:46 PM
[Choose #5] Advise the instructor (maybe it’s an oversight) then beat him up before throwing him overboard. The liability aside you may no be qualified to help the instructor. I often help resort divers on vacation but only with helpful tips and reassurance.
bhtmec2 - 8/28/2011 8:25 PM
[Choose #4] Help them back on board and then stick to you own buisness. It is a class and the instructor has to teach his course and Liability is on him. If it was just a charter and no instruction I would probaly work with the divers......
Woohooforme - 8/28/2011 4:04 PM
[Choose #1] Is there only one instructor? How many students? Ask for my money back from the boat charter, it ruined your trip. However I must say, it was nice of the other divers to help the less experienced divers.
TonyRobertoReed - 8/28/2011 10:12 AM
[Choose #1] As the safety of the divers is most important ,,cut the trip short and report the instructor
Reddiver - 8/28/2011 8:35 AM
[Choose #1] If the instructor is allowing others to dive with uncertified students, that risk is huge and the crew needs to know. As an instructor myself, I say shame on that instructor. I have seen thismyself while acting as crew on charter boats.
flatflam - 8/28/2011 3:35 AM
[Choose #1] Alot of emergency situations can be avoided by observing surface activities. I think intuition is a valuable weapon when used!!
ladybug23x - 8/27/2011 11:32 PM
[Choose #5] holy crap, what a lousy instructor
TigerMtn - 8/27/2011 4:28 PM
[Choose #3] I would cut the trip short also
BigDaddyDave - 8/27/2011 1:50 PM
[Choose #2] depends on the type of discomfort. and speaking to the Instructor my or may not help. report to proper dive aff.. PADI ect
ScubaNut08 - 8/27/2011 1:18 PM
[Choose #1] Not knowing why they experienced discomfort it’s hard to give a specific answer but just based on the info provided, speaking to the Capt about cutting the trip short so I could remove myself from the "problem" is my first thouht.
Flipper78754 - 8/27/2011 12:33 PM
[Choose #3] Then throw the instructor overboard - my wife was pulled down by her instructor because he did not want to wait for her to add more weight and belw her ear drum. I do not like bad instructors.
DiveBuddyChgo - 8/27/2011 12:08 PM
[Choose #4] Charter boats in L.Mich. require at least Adv. OW cert. I would be more upset with the charter co. and putting me on some lame dive site for newbies
ohioyscuba - 8/27/2011 7:17 AM
[Choose #4] You’ve got to cover your @$$ with both hands and stay away from the @$$ in charge.
noles0121 - 8/27/2011 7:09 AM
[Choose #5] I cant stand cocky people.. arrogance will get someone killed in diving.
lerpy - 8/27/2011 4:23 AM
[Choose #3] I think there are several answers that would work. Def tell the student to get another instructor, but also cutting the dive short might be best as well. Throwing the dingus overboard works too.
Granitehawk - 8/26/2011 11:20 PM
[Choose #2] This way I can insure the students are safer and i will be able to sleep that night , then find the Instructor And his shop and have a privite discussion with him and maybe a report to certifiying agency. DIVING IS SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE AND FUN
JoePagano - 8/26/2011 11:01 PM
[Choose #1] End it. All are in jepordy. Run away.
divershaun - 8/26/2011 9:27 PM
[Choose #5] sounds like 90% of the padi instructors we got out on the cee ray
flyingfrawg - 8/26/2011 8:53 PM
[Choose #1] Really want to answer the last one, but that would only create a secondary issue...
SCUBASMITTY - 8/26/2011 8:24 PM
[Choose #3] a GOOD instructor would have realized that he was going to have some POTENTIAL problems with the students involved in this (hopefully) hypothetical situation,and would’ve taken a little more time with them,,,quality NOT quantity
Agojo - 8/26/2011 7:44 PM
[Choose #5] none of the above, but I do like throw the instructor overboard
scuba4wrecks - 8/26/2011 5:14 PM
[Choose #5] Report the instructor to his certifying agency and advise the students to retake the course with a conpetent instructor. Diving is suppose to be fun!
Scubadad2 - 8/26/2011 5:10 PM
[Choose #1] This is not a safe dive. Lives are at stake and instructor is negligent at best.
Precious_Cargo_Diving - 8/26/2011 3:59 PM
[Choose #2] As an instructor I can’t stand by and let another instructor face a difficult situation. I would pull him off to the side and ask if he wanted my assistance. There is insufficient space to answer this question fully.
tmncali - 8/26/2011 3:22 PM
[Choose #4] I dont understand if you took the students, or a class was on a charter you were on? either way unless they were in immediate risk of death, I would leave it alone
scott - 8/26/2011 3:04 PM
[Choose #3] the good divers go on, bad students sit out and instructor does his best to educate bad divers
Matt65 - 8/26/2011 2:59 PM
[Choose #1] Safety first! Seems to me that altho tossing the "instructor" over might sound good, is obviously not an option. End the trip now before something bad really does happen.
MonkeyDiver - 8/25/2011 9:43 PM
[Choose #1] Don’t offer to help unless you are qualified. These students need additional pool training. Talk to the crew and let them make any decision. If an incident ocurs they will also be liable.
LatitudeAdjustment - 8/25/2011 10:33 AM
[Choose #4] Unless you are an insured DM or higher beware!